Helm Hammerhand had not used giants nor magic, but had used the hard work of his people for many years. A determined people could almost work magic and it was far less confusing for all. She respected Gandalf Grayhame, but had little trust in magic after the foul things it had done to her uncle.

"There were no giants nor magic in the building of the Hornburg, but it stands well. It is called the Hornburg because of the large horn that Helm Hammerhand would blow before he rode out with the eored," she explained.